Revisiting the Anabolic DietI plan to do this again. Has anyone else used the AD for mass gain? Obviously, I plan to clean up the carb up somewhat. Althought ben and jerrys cant anabolic diet bulking results all bad! I wish I would like to hear peoples expereinces.
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I plan to do this again. Has anyone else used the AD for mass gain? Obviously, I plan to clean up the carb up somewhat.
Althought ben and jerrys cant be all bad! I wish I would like to hear peoples expereinces. Theories are okay to, just please state them as such as not to get confused with real world results. I believe MR BMJ also said it did not work for him, but if someone else can get real gains on this diet then he was jealous.
We were just relaying our real-world results, which is what qball asked for. If you're offended by my words, blow it off as rage. I'm an angry guy. Check out these tweaks and see if they make sense. I shortened the carb load to a day and made it more intense.
I tended to flatten out too much over 2 days. Popped ALA like a madman leading into the weekend. Ate continuously through the carb load day.
Hi-GI, low GI, who gives a fuck? No one mentioned this. Every so often I shake things up with this. Works like a champ. I don't like to eat calories week on end. I mix things up. I could go on with these custom tweaks. E me if you want it. Does ketosis cause you to turn into a zombie in the gym? This never happend to me and my buddies, after we made the metabolic shift. I love the diet.
Time for wings drenched in ranch sauce. Ragin Asian "I'm like the Great Wall of China; big, hard as stone, and used to protect invading enemies of China from infiltrating the sweet, sweet countryside. Email This Page to Someone! Cheech Amateur Bodybuilder Total posts: Durring the week eat alot of high fat foods try to supplement with flax oil if you can stand it. Make sure to eat less than 20 carbs day. Keep the calories high specialy on work out days. Carb-ups are the important ideal factor with this diet as well as calories durring the week.
The carb-ups could be done like bodyopus every 2 hours for maximum effect. And supersets before the carb-up. The heavy training should be done on the first 3 days then if you are recovered do moderate weight if not go light on fri with supersets either way consume apples 2 hours before you work out.
Then consume 2 bowls of processed cereal with skim milk for the next 4 meals. Then consume low fat candy bars or snacks for the next 4 meals. Panakes, Pasta, Patatos and Pizza next 4 meals and so on.. If you dont like eating whole foods you can drink maltodextrin or carbo drinks-baks or clif bars met-rx bars durring you sleeping. HDT by human act development, it has 35 mg of vandyll per cap and mg chromium, durring the carb up. Alpha-lipolic acid durring the carbup. Flax-oil durring the keto days.
Low carb protein if needed. Low-cab protein diet optimum meal replacement drinks are not that bad. Carpoplex, ultrafuel or high carb drinks durring the first 4 meals on the carb-up.
I think this diet sucks for fat loss, but Its the best for preserving muscle and gaining mass. I did it for 14 weeks. If you can I would go out and get metformin another supplement behind the counter at you local phamarcy its a little better that alpha lipolic acid and more cost-effective inslin works as well. I hope this information helps you. This diet, I think only works good for gaining mass if you don't use steroids if you use you may want to stick to a zone type or high carb lowfat diet for maximum muscle gains minimal fat gain.
How much muscle did you put on? First-off, testosterone is lower throughout the weekdays when carbs are cut out. This is why the heavier workouts of the weekdays are done within the first 2 days before testosterone, insulin, and other growth hormones are lowered too much. Once ketosis is established, insulin is pretty much lowered to the point that it will not help in processing new muscle. I will agree that theses CKD diets are the best for preserving muscle though.
For the most part, I have never encountered anyone who has really benefitted from these diets for gaining very much muscle. Glutamine prevents a couple of my friends from entering into ketosis during the weekdays so they now only take it during the carb-up. I have never seen any studies or talked to anyone who feels that ephedrine has "prevented" themfrom gaining size. If anything, it is commonly debated that people actually get an increase in muscle and a decrease in muscle loss when taking it while dieting.
The last 6 to 8 weeks were used for experimenting new supplements and strategies, etc. If someone has actually gained 30 pounds of muscle on this diet then I am envious and jealous of their accomplishments because I know I couldn't do it.
It is not my place to tell someone that they did not do something they said they did. I have gained up to 15 to 18 pounds after a 48 hour carb-up where I ate a shitload of foods and carbs, but most of this was also water weight. After the carb-up, most of this excess water is lost through the weekdays. Well this was my 2 cents. I think this is my th post if I am not mistaken. It sucked feeling beloted on the weekends. But people started noticing me more than ever.
They asked me if I lifted weights, and one thought I was on steroids. The only thing I dont like is having to eat ever 1. If you do the carb up exactly outlined in bodyopus but add higher calories durring the week I think you can gain muscle fast.
My weight sayed the same I even went down on the bodyfat measure alot. I went up in all the weights except. I think I gained 10lbs of lean mass and lost around 7lbs of fat at the same time.
I plan to use it this fall to gain mass with around cals with out gaining much body fat. But right now I'm on a low fat High protien diet moderate carb and I see better results from fat loss. MS Pro Bodybuilder Total posts: But there's no way I could maintain the weight training intensity in the gym to gain muscle on this kind on diet. I go into ketosis very quickly, usually by the Tuesday early morning, so I would only ever get in one decent monday weights session before I started just dragging my butt in and out of the gym and going through the motions.
Different strokes for different folks. You'll never know how it works for you unless you try it. Recoome Amateur Bodybuilder Total posts: RaginAsian Amateur Bodybuilder Total posts: The anabolic diet is great for putting on lean mass.
After you make the metabolic shift, you can train just as intensely because you are relying on fat rather than carbs for energy. Don't listen to idiots. As a personal trainer I have had numerous clients successfully diet on a CKD to competition levels of bodyfat with little muscle-loss.
Many people do not respond the way ragin asian did to this diet. Some people can put on mass. I said that qball wouldn't know if it will work for him unless qball tried it.
MaxMuscle Pro Bodybuilder Total posts: The only person that would be considered an idiot, is a person who believes that one diet or one thing will work well for everyone. It's great to provide diets for people to try, but you have to understand that a certain thing may work well for you, but it may not work so well for others. I know people who have tried HIT and they haven't made good progress. You must always fine tune something to make it work for you.
I wasn't trying to piss any one off here buddy. To call me an idiot is a little harsh pal.